So, it took less than 10 minutes for me to be flagged as spam and put on ignore for giving constructive critique on this.



Which the artist needs. I've seen his work since about 2005/2006. It hasn't changed for the better since then.

Oh well. You know me. Flagging me as spam doesn't remove the existence of the post.

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I see the beginning of establishing some kind of perspective and that's good.

First, I think you'd benefit a lot from actual anatomy study. (I'm not talking just copying from photos, or models. I'm talking about learning the skeleton so you can consider how the various joints move before you put muscle and skin on top.)

You'll understand range of motion and won't have problems with having bodies/poses that look like they're being rushed into the ER. You'll understand where the superfluous bones make the shapes on the skin you're drawing. I can tell you don't really know how the shoulder blade is shaped or how it affects motion. When you understand them, you won't get them wrong.

I recommend reading Will Eisner's Expressive Anatomy for Comic and Narrative. As well as the George Bridgeman books. They've been a great help to me.

Her arm is dislocated at the should and because it's pole straight at the elbow on top of that, it looks like she's in shock as she tries to get up after a serious, but survivable fall. (And broken her arm and leg as well.)

Her torso isn't twisting. It's more like a bent piece of paper. This gives the overall impression of a dried orange peel (We hang them and let them dry to make tea.) Try to remember that the ribcage and pelvis are static. They pivot and turn, but do not deform. It's the soft parts that deform to cause the twist.

Anatomy aside, I think your major problem is severe lack of spatial relationships in your drawing. (I've noticed this trend in your art and I think if you can train your eye to see the 3d distance covered in space and put it into 2d, you're work will fix a lot of the problems.)

When we establish these relationships, our viewers get a sense that the figure exists in the world. Even with simplest 2d, sidescrolling cartoons, artists will give a little shadow to show the ground plane sometimes.

To keep things simple, stick to one point perspective. Use it to make a ground plane and you'll see how she's interacting with the world. It does wonders.

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As far as gesture goes, I think you're trying too hard to be complex and you're ending up flyswatting your figure. (That's where you've got too many directions going on and it just makes it look like "SPLAT" every which way. For composition sake, pick a direction and stick with it. Your line of action and your secondary motions will follow/be affected by it.) Lay down and do the same thing. If it's doesn't feel comfortable, it doesn't look so. Keep her joints in natural angles. Supple. Comfortable.

I think making the ground plane will help you do that. You can see where she's resting. Where her weight is. I turned her arm in because it's comfortable and she's got to support her head. If she doesn't, she falls over. (A) Bringing in the arm also follows the perspective better, establishing the space she's taking up more.

I suppose you were trying to capture her rolling over. If you want to do that, lead with the shoulder, not the hand. Keep motion coming from the core of the body. Either lead with the torso/shoulder or lead with the pelvis/hip. That will leave the other major structure to catch up and cause the twist you're trying to get. I would have left the hand on the other side of the body, trailing behind the elbow (like a chain), propping her up and pushing her over. (Act it out. I can't stress that enough. Feel it with your body, and you will see it with your mind. You are your best reference.)

Just to explain relationships, I have a more boring position of the arm.

(B) The right foot and right hand was a very bad choice to line up. Arms don't bend like legs. They work the opposite way. Because of this, you create an impossible situation and destroys the space you did create with the bit of foreshortening you attempted.

This would also have been an opportunity to use your ground plane and establish her in space. Keep her foot following the ground. You need some extreme foot dexterity (used to have a wonderful point) so it looks more natural to let her toes stabilize her leg, flat on the ground. Doing this will also let you see where her foot would more naturally end up, due to perspective and anatomy.

You broke her spine as well. It's not fitting into the base of her skull. The front of her torso is pointing away, so at the most, we'd see the side of her face. The parts of the body are different parts, but they all weave together to make one body. (Speaking of which, draw the hidden parts. You're falling into the puzzle piece anatomy, where things are disjointed because you're not making sure they connect (D))

These are all very amateur problems that most people fix within their first year or two of serious drawing.

Try the relationships/perspective thing next time. You'll shock yourself and the difference it makes in your work.


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I wasn't mean. I wasn't basing things on personal likes (it would look better if her boobs were bigger hurr hurr) or anything like that. Totally objective. Based on nothing but basic drawing technique, anatomy, and the like. I even took the time to explain visually in case I wasn't clear.


This artist also apparently doesn't want critique, but does want "insightful comments"... Um... isn't that what critique is? Maybe he just wants his ass licking in the form of interpretive dance? (Saw the front page after being put on ignore.)

Well, no art community is without this type. Just like no community is without my type. Some people don't have the balls to face reality, I guess. Sad.

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Edit: Nothing is really hidden.



May I ask why you mark perfectly legitimate comments and concerns as "spam"?

(Good question. Answered by being flagged as spam.)



That looks like a painful pose to be in.



I think her left arm is broken.



Mm, love the hair and facial expression, but I think the "proportions" or just the way the body twists seems a bit off.



i really love the shading and colors but seriously that pose does not look comfortable or humanly/elfly possible w/ that happy face in my mind the left arm would have looked way better infront of her body instead of awkwardly put behind her ...it would have made the picture more "sexy?" i don't know but yeah o.o that arm creeps me out even though it was drawn soo well

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There was no reason for rational, and polite comments to be flagged as spam. They deserve to be heard.